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And the Oscar goes to... (F_U_N_G_U_S)
03-21-2002, 03:24 PM
I complain about this movie just about as much as anybody, but I&#39;m also one of it&#39;s biggest supporters. So bear with me: <BR> <BR>I have really crappy computer speakers. I mean REALLY crappy. These are the kind that come &#39;built into&#39; a monitor, but where removed and I guess rewired to work more or less normally. <BR> <BR>Well, I clicked on a godzilla roar wav file, not realizing I had the speakers turned a little too high &#40;as crappy as they are, if I turned them up 100 % I&#39;d be completely deaf&#41;. <BR> <BR>Now, note, wav files for me play in winamp, who&#39;s internal volume I had set to about 15% at the time. <BR> <BR>So the wav file begins to play... <BR> <BR>My ears are still bleeding. <BR> <BR>Which got me thinking &#40;again&#41;, about G98. How on earth could Nik be THAT close to Godzilla when he let out a roar, and not be in massive pain, and have some significant loss of hearing for the rest of the movie? <BR> <BR>Also, aren&#39;t sounds at certain decibels capable of actually knocking somebody unconscious?
Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
03-21-2002, 09:35 PM
Dunno. I can stand 15 feet from a jet engine dragster winding up it&#39;s turbine and going through the whole afterburner pops, without having my hands over my ears. &#40;Picture standing next to a jet fighter about to take off...same thing&#41; They&#39;re so loud you FEEL it in your chest. Of course, my ears are ringing afterwards, and I&#39;m kinda deaf for awhile, but hey.. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;">
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
03-22-2002, 02:30 AM
I used to stand in front of two 100W Marshall stacks turned up to &#34;eleven&#34; for 3 hours at a time daily for 5 years. Of course, my ears are shot now, but that&#39;s besides the point. LOL I did live to tell about it. ;o&#41;
And the Oscar goes to... (F_U_N_G_U_S)
03-22-2002, 02:43 AM
Well, I was trying to figure the math of it &#40;way beyond me of course&#41;, but figuring size and lung capacity, a roar from Godzilla would have to be in the range of 1500&#43; decibels &#40;humans can go deaf at what, 240 or less?&#41;. To make speakers capable of it would require several, multi THOUSAND watt speakers to replicate such a sound. Even a second of such a sound would knock someone unconcious, probably pierce their ear drums, and leave them deaf for at least several days. <BR> <BR>Imagine Sheri yelling in your ear. Ouch. <BR> <BR>Now imagine if Sheri mutated several hundred times her size, then shouted in your ear again.
Kefla (Kefla)
03-22-2002, 06:27 AM
Humans can sustain permanent shift in hearing sensitivity with exposure to 90 dB to 110 ,dB. I&#39;d have to refresh my memory with a text, but even lower intensity sound exposure could be a problem. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;"> <BR> <BR>Godzilla would have a killer voice, I guess. <BR>The sounds I recall were the pitiful ones as Godzilla was dying on the bridge. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":&#40;"> A mother of a preschool child at work just mentioned that this week. Her son&#39;s reaction to Godzilla was overwhelming sadness because &#34;the mommy and the eggs died&#34; in the end.
Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
03-22-2002, 09:26 AM
I have to wonder though....do lizards even MAKE a noise? <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;">
Rick Santillo (Rjs)
03-22-2002, 11:16 AM
Imagine Sheri yelling in your ear. Ouch. <BR>Now imagine if Sheri mutated several hundred times her size, then shouted in your ear again. <BR> <BR>ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rick Santillo (Rjs)
03-22-2002, 11:21 AM
Sheri - not the point - Godzilla always had a distinct voice - if you will, and Dean and co kept true to that. It&#39;s one on my favorite wave sounds I have on my puter here at work. <BR> <BR>Ok, now Mark - I would have loved to seee glass explode out of windows when G roared. I think that would be a great effect. So yes, I&#39;d say Nik should have been blown away. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":&#41;">
Rick Santillo (Rjs)
03-22-2002, 11:22 AM
Pat - you metal head!
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
03-22-2002, 01:30 PM
&#62; Pat - you metal head! <BR> <BR>&#39;Tis true. &#91;grin&#93; <BR> <BR>And may I say yet again how much easier it is to read here. Where&#39;s Andrew? I need to give him a big wet kiss. LOL
Rick Santillo (Rjs)
03-25-2002, 02:07 PM
I agree - I like it.
Yes, Sheri, lizards do make a noise. With G the sound is caused by the rattle in his lungs and their breating out, sorta like asthma. With G the wheeze turns into a roar much like a hippo. <BR> <BR>As I have eucalyptus trees around my home/office, my salamander doesn&#39;t have a problem with asthma so she&#39;s relatively quiet. <BR> <BR>&#40;Komodo&#41; Dragons purr &#40;sort of really deeply&#41;, when they&#39;re happy or when they&#39;ve seen a producer... <BR> <BR>Some lizards hiss, others purr. I can&#39;t imagine G purring, though.
Angillas (Angillas)
03-26-2002, 11:28 AM
&#62;I used to stand in front of two 100W Marshall &#62;stacks turned up to &#34;eleven&#34; for 3 hours at a time &#62;daily for 5 years. Of course, my ears are shot now <BR> <BR>Ouch! <BR>I did signifigant damage to my ears in one night &#40;LA GUNS show at a bar in Iowa&#41; I don&#39;t WANNA imagine how much damage could be done by prolonged exposure. <BR>&#40;nowadays when &#34;Banding&#34; I bring earplugs&#41; <BR> <BR>Coolest thing Band related: <BR> <BR>&#40;When volunteering with Loading Bandtruck at 1:20 AM to escape an amourous Ex...&#41; <BR> <BR>Soundman Chuck: Do you know how to wind cables? <BR>Me: Not in the Slightest <BR>Soundman Chuck: Good. Here&#39;s how I want you to do it....
And the Oscar goes to... (F_U_N_G_U_S)
03-26-2002, 02:17 PM
WSAI, you are correct on the lizard thing, but not quite on the Godzilla thing. His &#39;sound&#39; is most definetly a roar, and over the years he&#39;s been giving various vocalizations in Toho&#39;s attempt to instill a distinct personality. He does his famous bell roar &#40;the Skreeeee-oooong one&#41; as a triumphant thing ususally. But he does have &#39;wail&#39; roars and other emoting sounds. Moreso than your average lizard ;&#93;
Will Finch (Shetan)
03-28-2002, 11:31 PM
Whoa! Deja Vu Mark! I was looking out the window this morning and heard a little skreeee-ooong myself &#40;mini though it was..a little chamillion lizard&#41; popping out a red flap under its chin over and over on the window sill. A few hours later went into a &#34;bargain&#34; store to help someone move a dining room set with the truck, looked across the room and saw Godzilla perching in front of a building. It was the 3-D Wall Art &#39;98 Toho still in the wrapper!!! What a find!
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