The latest on scientific studies

[Will Finch (Shetan)]

...in relation to one of my favorite movie genres, Westerns. <BR>1) In a smaller film, the director doesn't mind too much getting bonked in the head accidently by an extra dressed like a cowboy being the boom guy. <BR>2) Big guys are difficult to drag through saloon doors before being thrown in the mud. <BR>3) In smaller films, extras can have multiple roles, from being costumed as a werewolf demon to taking a fall from horseback in a stunt fight. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> Yeehaaa! Thats enough scientific studies, I won't spoil it too much fer ya. <BR> <BR>Does anyone know Sundance's address?

[The Wizard of Oz (Mike)]

Try the sundance film festival web site. <BR> <BR>Re your Scientific study. <BR> <BR>1. The extra bonking the director on the head will be fired on the spot. If a micro-indie film the extra has been pulled in by the "deferrment" con as has the director. they're not gonna get payed anyway so both should bonk each other on the head. <BR>2. Yer right, I've tried. <BR>3. If this is the case, the extra would be paid as an actor since he has been given direction and told to do something, putting him/her in the focus by the director or AD. <BR> <BR>An extra CANNOT be told or expected to do stunts. It is against Federal law to have an untrained person to do a trained person's job dangerous or not. <BR> <BR>If the Extra has stunt training and has been given direction then not only is that extra treated, paid and given credit as an actor, they must be paid as a stuntman/woman for the stunt performed. This was done on Hallmark's journey to the center of the earth. The moment they tried giving an extra a stunt to do, the s**t hit the fan.

[Will Finch (Shetan)]

Hi Mike, sorry I haven't replied back sooner..I've been on set the last few days. (darn, I love saying that) Thanks for the idea of the website! <BR>re to your re: <BR>1)wrong. I guess I should have clarified. There was only a few inches to play with.(beneath an overhead light and being seen at the top of the screen) The dir. was ducking through and ran into it. It was an honest mistake and everyone knew it. There are other forms of "pay" for the time being other than money. <BR>2) Did you succeed? <BR>3)Hallmark's Journey To The Center of the Earth must have been a much bigger production. <BR> An extra CAN too do stunts if he chooses. It just depends on the production. I mean if you're doing something thats listed under "abilities" on the back of your headshot, that means either you can do it, have done it,were trained for it, or have taught it. I'm not going to do something that I know I can't do. I'll leave that to someone who knows he can.

[The Wizard of Oz (Mike)]

1). oooh, headache! <BR>2). Nah. But borrowed from John Houston to succeed. Stunt guy (not extra) harnessed to "A" frame or crane, with crew members on other end of rope let go at strategic time to drop guy face down in mud. needs two to three diferent angles. Side for scruff of neck and seat of pants (start of throw), front for air shot (before landing in mud), side again for landing and reaction. <BR> <BR>3) Journey was low budget (below 10 mil). The Stuntmen's and Stuntwomans Association of Motion Pictures, United Stuntwomen's Association, Hong Kong Stuntmen's Association (Jackie Chan), SAG, SAG extras, AFTRA, and MPAA all disagree with you regarding extras doubling as stunt guys. <BR> <BR>A melee scene such as the bikie wedding fight scene in 'Mr Nice Guy' is generally okay if the stunt coordinator is experienced and individual groups are coached. 15 extras were hurt and 5 went to hospital. One woman (a model doing Extra work on the day) had her nose broken. Now tell me it's okay for an extra to pretend to be a stunt person. <BR> <BR>It doesn't depend on the production. It depends on the safety rules laid down. The new proposed amendments were sent out last week.

[The Wizard of Oz (Mike)]

Are you aware that the guy throwing doesn't actually throw the guy? it's the stunt guy being thrown (with or without the aid of a harness) that does all the work.

[Will Finch (Shetan)]

Cool about the harnessing and A frames! <BR> <BR>Mike, this is way smaller than Journey's 10 mil production and had to drive quite a way to get there. There's not been any big productions around here lately but with the recently passed film incentive bill to help entice some larger productions, I certainly hope to see more of those groups you've named. <BR> <BR>Hmmm. Hallmark might be a good idea too. It has great values. <BR> <BR>Sorry about the melee scene and the hurt extras. Evidently they used the wrong ones. Probably what they should have done was be extra cautious and plan each scene and move in detail beforehand. Maybe for us it was a little divine intervention but not a soul got hurt. No one. Oh my legs were a little sore the next day, but thats a long way from my heart. <BR> <BR>To your second post: Well yes! Although it wasn't exactly a throw (better than just that) That explains the drenched with perspiration shirt and numerous compliments. Don't take it that I'm trying to be a big braggart because I don't mean that at all. It's just something that happened but I'm not going to apologize for it. Maybe I'm just getting weird in my old age-I even got a tatoo. Course, its just one of those stick on ones.Heehee. <BR> <BR>Another scientific "study": The Patriot CD is best experienced when driving a car with 8 speakers turned way up! Especially #10. John Williams is a master!

[The Wizard of Oz (Mike)]

Now ya talkin'!! <BR> <BR>Don't forget about turning the bass up and the treble down to half. Gives it a Lucasy type of sound to it. <BR> <BR>"Rodeo Drive is Listening" (damn, i hit a plot hole).