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Jennifer Gray (Maurine)
04-01-2003, 06:46 PM
I was curious as to what role artists played in the entertainment industry. <BR> <BR>I figgure they do a lot in design of props and such, and even creature effects for sci.fi. movies, both mold making and even graphic design. What else do artists do, in particular sculptors and other more classical fields of art, like painting and drawing(not including animation).

Daniel Alexander Kurle (Danielk)
04-02-2003, 01:25 PM
Hi, <BR> <BR>as you can see - I am not Mr. D - but I can answer your question (at least a bit). I work for a postproduction house here in germany, and still drawing storyboards by hand (allthough I am an 3d animator; working with 3ds max) - so the "classical fields of art" is very important even for the newer medias like 3d animation. You need to know what you are preparing to do ("sculpting" within the renderingsoftware for example). And thats why its so important to be able to sculpting, painting and drawing besides the 3d modelling and animation skills. <BR> <BR>This was just a little inside - there is a lot more... but I am just one of the smaaaall 3d artists, who never will get the "big attention" ;) <BR> <BR>Daniel

The Wizard of Oz (Mike)
04-02-2003, 02:25 PM
It's all a team effort. <BR> <BR>Though I know of an artist that got credit for the graffiti art in Mr Nice Guy. <BR> <BR>Just let the production houses and studios around you know you exist. Get an appointment with them to show them your work. That's how ROTH got started doing work in the Industry. They guy that did the ice sculpture in My Best Friend's Wedding was relatively unknown untill then.

Devlin
04-03-2003, 11:12 AM
That's right. There are many, many rolls for traditional artists. From drawing storyboards, painting conceptual art design, drawing sketches of costume design, set decorating and painting, model building, special FX, to marketting, merchandizing and promotional materials. If you're interested in working in film production, there are many jobs available for good artists. <BR> <BR>hope that answers your question. <BR> <BR>-Dean Devlin

Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
04-03-2003, 04:16 PM
Shamless plug, plug, plug. ;-) <BR> <BR>Although, I am happy to say that one of the artists who worked on Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmarron, was an Equine Art Guild member. Wooohoo!

The Wizard of Oz (Mike)
04-03-2003, 08:36 PM
That shameless plug was brought to you on behalf of the Shameless Plug Company of Katy Indiana. ;)

Will Finch (Shetan)
04-04-2003, 10:55 AM
ID4 was the largest model shoot ever attempted for a feature film, and to quote Mr. Dean, "the effects, models, computer-generated imagery and stunts would mean nothing if we didn't have likable, believable characters and a strong, involving story" <BR>Sheri, you can pass on to your E.A.G. member a big congrats! They obviously really researched their material. That has to be the very best animation of any horsey subject I've seen. The expressions, movement, and actions were so very realistic. The only thing I had questions about were the eyebrows...but...as the horses didn't speak, it enabled them help in creating those expressions. <BR>You go Jen, thats whats so fascinating about the movies Electric/Centropolis has been involved in. They seem to use all types of artists abilities in a remarkable way.

The Wizard of Oz (Mike)
04-04-2003, 01:37 PM
Well, EE and Centropolis can't do much without the remarkable artists they employ.

Jennifer Gray (Maurine)
04-05-2003, 07:54 PM
Thanks everyone for your input. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR> <BR>That's cool about the Equine art guild member Sheri. BTW, I just got a horse skull and jaw bone, and am about to make a frame for the neck and shoulder. I want to build up on it for a study. hehehe

Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
04-06-2003, 07:57 AM
KOOL! Life sized??? Do tell! <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)">

Jennifer Gray (Maurine)
04-07-2003, 06:38 AM
Yeah...it is a horse skull and the jaw bone...from asn older horse though, but good sized. Most of the teeth from the front of the mouth are gone. I had innitially wanted a skull with all teeth, and from a younger horse. But considering I wanted to make it with it's mouth open, recreating the inner mouth with tounge and all, I may have been a bit ambitious. With this skull, I will remake it with the mouth closed, as the teeth are absent, and I do not want to recreate teeth. heheh <BR> <BR>I already know how I want his head, what pose and such. So I just need to have someone who has welding equipment help me make a frame that will support the skull as well as build-up insulation for the neck/shoulder, and then clay both over insultation and skull...then I just build it up, and put on muscle and such. mainly the face will be accurately recreated...the neck and shoulders will only be recreated on the outer side...no inner muscle layer...no bones to attach and bother with. <BR> <BR>It is the head I have had difficulty with thought, so it should be fine.

Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
04-07-2003, 06:56 AM
So it's kinda like an armature then, yes? <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)">

Jennifer Gray (Maurine)
04-07-2003, 05:56 PM
Well... Kinda. I like to think of it as simmilar to what investigators do when reconstructing the face on the skull of a murder victim though. <BR> <BR>I would definately refer to the rest of it as an armature though...but not really the horse skull itself..even though it serves as one.

Will Finch (Shetan)
04-09-2003, 09:39 PM
Good luck on your project, Jen. Sheri, one other thing I noticed in Spirit. When he was in the water as a foal, he was licking the water. They might lip it but they don't lick it. Salt block maybe, but water?..nah. It did accent the curiousness though.

Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
04-10-2003, 07:48 AM
hehee Yeah, a lot of horsie people noted that, but I think for film, if he had just stuck his head in the water, it wouldn't have conveyed what exactly he was doing for those who don't know much about horses. <IMG SRC="http://www.electric-ent.com/bbs/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> Same with the eyebrows. Considering that the horses didn't speak, they sure said a lot. <BR> <BR>I hope there's another move like it! I love it!