Want to get HARD to find

[Twinkle Twinkle Little (Starr)]

Been looking for a copy to buy, heck even rent right now would be great. <BR>My kids have been watching the TV series and I have told them time and again that the REAL ORIGINAL Stargate was the best of all. <BR>BUT I can not find anyone who has a copy for rent or for sale. <BR> <BR>Has it been taken out of distrabution? <BR> <BR>Can't find the first 5 seasons of the TV series either.. My justification on watching the TV series.. They had such an AWESOME movie to base it on you can't help but enjoy it.. <BR> <BR>Makes me wonder some days.. with the movie being SO good.. what would the TV series have been like if Dean and Roland had their hands in it.. <BR> <BR>and I also must agree with Chris.. <BR>Christopher Judge *Hubba Hubba* <BR>Can't think of a better actor to play Teal'c <BR>Although I DO feel for the poor man having to go through that many seasons of having to shave all his body hair. The effect though works VERY well. <BR> <BR>He's not married ya know.. but him and his model G/F just had a baby.. sounds serious.. but there's still a chance LOL

[SG-1 Hater]

You can buy the "Ultimate Edition" StarGate DVD at any electronic stores; it usually retails for $10.

I must disagree with you, however, regarding the television series. I find it upsetting to see Devlin and Emmerich's version of StarGate distorted and bastardized so badly, so I do not watch the show.

[sheri]

Hate it as you might, it's the tv series that's helped keep Stargate from falling off the radar, and potentially interests someone to back it financially to finish the original movie series. So, if it weren't for the tv series, Stargate might have just got shelved and forgotten (by the non sci-fi fans that is) about like so many wonderful sci-fi movies.

[SG-1 Hater]

I don't think it would have just gotten shelved, and even if it did, at least it would be the sole version of StarGate; there would be no messed-up, poorly-researched and insulting version of it, lol.

[starr]

Perhaps this should be one of these things that we should agree to DISagree on.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I for one LOVE the original Stargate and adore BOTH the TV series. (Chris Judge and Jason Momoa *DROOL*)

I can respect your choices for disliking the series, as long as you can respect mine for loving it.

As for my looking for a copy of the DVD, if you check the date I posted that message it was just over a year ago, and I am thrilled to say I am on my second copy. LOL.
I kinda killed my first one *blushes*
But thanx for the suggestion.
Walmart was where I found my second one.

[Crazy Pavarotti Man]

I don't think it would have just gotten shelved, and even if it did, at least it would be the sole version of StarGate; there would be no messed-up, poorly-researched and insulting version of it, lol.

I think you actually disproved your own point. Just the fact that the "ultimate edition" is going for 10 bucks kind of proves that even WITH the TV series, the movie has mostly fallen by the wayside...

[SG-1 Hater]

No, not really...it's sadly fallen by the wayside in favor of the TV series. If there was no TV series, the film would be more highly regarded and appreciated as the masterpiece that it is, instead of being put aside and ignored in favor of an inferior television show.

And Starr, thank you for respecting my opinion. I also respect yours; if you wish to watch the shows, that's quite alright with me, as long as you realize that the show and the film are not related...

[sheri]

Oh we know that the tv series and movie aren't related entirely. We've been here since almost *before* Stargate even existed in either form. ;) We know the story behind it all. Probably even more than you do. *grin*

[starr]

Obviously after reading your posts you are not thinking clearly and I refuse to be part and party to this conversation anymore.

Anyone who knows anything about Stargate would know what is going on between the series and the movies.

I have been a member of this board for many years now and I will not allow a newcomer to lower my status here by being goaded into arguing with your obvious attempt to try and suck up here.

Film and TV are both equally involving and essentially require the same thought and devotion to create.

I have had the pleasure of viewing both TV and Movie offerings from Electric/Centropolis and find them both of the fantastic caliber one would come to expect from fine quality entertainment.

You may choose to dislike the series but I would ask that you politely refrain from making such derogatory comments solely based on the fact that you dislike it so. A lot of hard work and creative talent is put into creating this, and every other piece of media that is created for the sole purpose of entertaining us the fans. The creators, actors, directors etc. work damn hard to provide us with ongoing, engaging entertainment daily, weekly and yearly.

Should they ever decide to go on strike or stop producing we would all be screwed. No movies and No TV would bring the current global population to their knees.

Actors work hard to hone their craft, and not an easy one at that I may add, to make the characters they are called upon to create to be brought out of the creator's mind and into the minds and hearts of the viewers as they were originally thought up.

Being that in society today 'variety is the spice of life', Creators and actors must be ever vigilant in keeping up with the ebb and flow of fandom, and provide entertainment that, while it may not please all peoples, provides said caliber of entertainment to the general population.

Sheer volume and numbers would indicate that while you may not approve of the series (SG-1 and Atlantis) they are indeed popular media and a valid part of today's pop culture. The fact that SG-1 has made it to the 10th season and has a spin off, while other offerings along the same line and quality have fallen by the way side in less than a half season, is clearly a testament to the quality (from story board to actors to post production) and popularity of these shows.

I fully admit that without the creative genius of Dean Devlin, the Stargate series would never have come to pass. And while Mr Devlin is not in creative control of the series, had he not had the vision or dream to see the original movie(s) brought to life, things in the Sci Fi World would look quite different now.

We must also admit that his dream and vision has spawned something, while not on the magnitude of Star Trek (tm), a fandom and following that, while loyal to the TV series, fondly looks back and honors the roots from whence the series came.

I would like to draw attention to www.gateworld.net for a moment.
(NOT a promo spot, just my personal source for info)
This is a very popular informational site for both the Stargate series.
When the information broke that Mr. Devlin would indeed be making the second and third movies in this series Gateworld had it all over their site PROUDLY informing fans of the series about the impending completion of the original movies that spawned the series they enjoy so much.

To conclude, popular culture is a fickle thing.
Without A there can be no B, but everyone must acknowledge that A comes before B and without them both there will never be a C.
Such is the circle of life, as it relates to all things.

This is the last I will say on this matter focused on any of your posts. I bid you, good day.

[SG-1 Hater]

Boy, that was long-winded... :P

I have no intention to argue. I don't like arguing, I hate it. The show isn't half-bad, but I don't like when it tries to establish itself as a continuation of the film (which is is NOT), nor do I like the fact that it pushes aside the film in favor of itself.

SG-1 fans also seem particularly hostile and defensive about SG-1...all I'm doing here is expressing my opinion, I don't mean to start any arguments. I'm sorry if my opinion happens to varies from what is "allowed," and because of that, you might see some reason to flame me for it...but this is a forum, and we're all allowed to express our opinions, no matter what they are. I'm respectful of other's decisions to like SG-1, all I do is simply state that I don't like it. I have not personally directed any of my posts, and I do not insult.

You, however, have done both, and simply proves to me further that SG-1 fans are not nice people.

"I bid you, good day."

[devlin]

All of you are awesome!!!

-Dean Devlin

[sheri]

"...but I don't like when it tries to establish itself as a continuation of the film (which is is NOT), nor do I like the fact that it pushes aside the film in favor of itself..."

Elaborate on how it has done this? I've never watched the series myself, but I don't have a problem with it like you seem to. Have you ever actually *watched* it yourself to be able to have such a strong opinion against it? After all, one cannot really argue if they only have one side of the debate...

Contrary to your belief, I do believe that the series has HELPED the rest of the movies have the chance to be made. (It's all about $$$ potentials) If you think otherwise, you need to do your homework into this industry to see just what drives it. ;)

[SG-1 Hater]

Yes, my sister has two seasons of the show (which I have watched) as well as watching it on TV. The series is an alleged continuation of the film, but it is NOT. The series attempts to create its own continuity/universe for StarGate, pushing aside and overriding aspects of the film's story and continuity. I don't like the show and I refuse to support a bastardization of the original StarGate, which is why I don't watch it anymore. I'll buy anything StarGate film-related to support it, but I will not give any money toward an arrogant bastardization that seeks to push aside and/or twist the film to fit its own distorted continuity.

[Crazy Pavarotti Man]

Quite the contrary, actually. See, since the series has gone on for over 10 years, it has *evolved*. What you're comparing is what the series has *become* versus the movies. The series very well is a continuation of the movies, it just takes that "world" in a different direction.

[SG-1 Hater]

And if you knew anything about the film's universe, you'd know that what you said is not true. The film's universe wasn't some undeveloped world that the series expanded and continued upon; the film's universe WAS developed, it's just that Glassner chose to disregard some of those things and make up his own explaination. For example, Ra's race. He's not a snake; in the film's universe he's a humanoid alien who took possession of a boy WITH HIS SOUL as a measure to extend his own life, after searching the galaxy for such a means. The Goa'uld take hosts as a regular part of life, the Goa'uld being parasites. There are many other examples, but what I really hate is how the show has made it's own continuity, replaced aspects of the film's continuity, and then established itself as THE StarGate continuum. The film and SG-1 are not related, and can't be. Hopefully Mr. Devlin's sequels will finally seperate the two universes for all the fans who can't tell the difference.

[Foxtrot_X-Ray]

Well, Bottom line is.. The makers of the Series Paid a lot of money (I assume) for the Rights to use the characters & siituations..

In my book.. That allows them to do what they wish.

I'm glad that D&E are getting the opportunity to tell the Story the way they'd intended, but Like it or not, the Series Is at least partially responsible for that chance.


I'm actually going to have to use another of D&E's Films as an example.. (Sorry, Dean)

GODZILLA
As I'm sure you're aware a number of classic Godzilla fans were a trifle displeased at the Changes D&E Made to the Character.

So is one a fair use of a licence and the other not?

[Crazy Pavarotti Man]

And if you knew anything about the film's universe, you'd know that what you said is not true. The film's universe wasn't some undeveloped world that the series expanded and continued upon; the film's universe WAS developed, it's just that Glassner chose to disregard some of those things and make up his own explaination. For example, Ra's race. He's not a snake; in the film's universe he's a humanoid alien who took possession of a boy WITH HIS SOUL as a measure to extend his own life, after searching the galaxy for such a means. The Goa'uld take hosts as a regular part of life, the Goa'uld being parasites. There are many other examples, but what I really hate is how the show has made it's own continuity, replaced aspects of the film's continuity, and then established itself as THE StarGate continuum. The film and SG-1 are not related, and can't be. Hopefully Mr. Devlin's sequels will finally seperate the two universes for all the fans who can't tell the difference.


Actually, what you are saying is not true. None of the stuff you are stating was ever stated or clarified in the Stargate movie. Everything you are espousing was stated (and NOT by said creators, Devlin and Emmerich) after the movie, and even after the series started. What you are doing is using inferred (but never canonized) information to support your claim, which really makes your argument lack any significant credibility.