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Agent Pat (Agentpat)
05-14-2001, 04:33 PM
HEY! Iz quiet in here. We must fix that! <BR> <BR>Okay, so who&#39;s idea was it to place Adam in the fictional town of &#34;Gerard&#34; Colorado? Not only is the location identified with a layered text title at the beginning of the episode, but fugitive Adam MacArthur is even seen driving a bus labeled &#34;Gerard.&#34; Okay, no biggie. Anybody catch the connection though? In both &#34;The Fugitive&#34; television show as well as the movie, the last names of the characters who pursued the fugitive was &#34;Gerard&#34; - &#34;Lt. Philip Gerard&#34; on the TV show, and &#34;Federal Deputy Marshal Sam Gerard&#34; in the film. &#42;giggle&#42; <BR> <BR>And while I&#39;m here, allow me to also draw attention to the fact that Tommy Lee Jones played &#34;Sam Gerard&#34; in the movie version of &#34;The Fugitive.&#34; Col. Vise jokingly identified himself as Jones in Caged. &#34;Sure you are - and I&#39;m Tommy Lee Jones!&#34; Get it? <BR> <BR>Dean and company, you guys kill me! <BR> <BR>Agent Pat &#40;doing her best to maintain the moniker&#41;
Emma (Emma)
05-14-2001, 05:24 PM
There&#39;s no doubt in my mind about your &#34;moniker&#34;! It has been earned over and over again! ;o&#41;
Kefla (Kefla)
05-14-2001, 05:29 PM
Hey Pat, Do you store all these insights in a special file? Or are they fresh revelations? Once again, I&#39;m impressed. You don&#39;t suppose they landlocked poor MacArthur and turned him from Navy to Air Force pilot just for this nod to the Fugitive . . .
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
05-14-2001, 09:04 PM
A special file somewhere? Yeah, the &#34;D&#34; drive in the back of my head. LOL <BR> <BR>Actually, these last two &#34;revelations&#34; were new &#40;Gerard and The Sting.&#41; I&#39;ll see something and go &#34;Hmmmmmm....&#34; Then it&#39;s off to do the research to confirm my suspicion. Hell, I bet we&#39;ve only scratched the surface too. If I were the filmmaker&#40;s&#41;, I would jam pack every episode with stuff like this. It&#39;s fun to work into the script, and even more fun for the viewer to &#34;discover&#34; along the way.
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
05-14-2001, 09:45 PM
Regarding the Air Force verses Navy pilot, I&#39;m not sure the writers knew &#42;what&#42; they wanted Adam to be. They kept intermingling aspects of both &#40;different planes etc.&#41; As far as the town name &#40;Girard&#41;, I suppose they could have made it an old Naval base somewhere near the coast if they wanted to. My guess is, the writers weren&#39;t too concerned with the exact location, just the &#34;history&#34; of that location.
Kefla (Kefla)
05-14-2001, 09:57 PM
Well, the &#34;history&#34; of that location, Gerard, is also problematic. We see young Constance with infant son in her arms. There&#39;s the reluctant leave-taking as Adam MacArthur departs for his survival training, with the dust of a very inland Colorado town welling up from the jeep. &#40;MacArthur isn&#39;t very established in his career if he&#39;s just leaving on survival training.&#41; He supposedly met Constance there in Gerard. Now they&#39;ve married and their infant son is born. BUT, look at son Jason&#39;s info stored at the NSA. Jason was born in Florida. hmmm.
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
05-14-2001, 10:05 PM
Good point on the Florida/Colorado mystery. Wassup with that? On one hand, we have MacArthur disappearing from a training mission in FL, but Adam and Constance seem to have a lot of history in Girard. Strange. Where did they spend most of their time? Adam&#39;s flashbacks aren&#39;t too clear in that department.
Kefla (Kefla)
05-14-2001, 10:10 PM
:-&#41; I&#39;m tempted to say his flashbacks are flawed as a result of his abduction experience and the experiments. Maybe the poor guy is pining away for his lost family but doesn&#39;t remember the details correctly, LOL. <BR> <BR>No, maybe Constance&#39;s mother, who happened to live in Florida, wanted to help with the birth. So Constance went home to mom&#39;s, then returned to the dusty old base with the baby.
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
05-14-2001, 11:29 PM
I often wonder if the writers have ever lamented, &#34;We can&#39;t get NUTHIN&#39; by these people!&#34; <BR> <BR>Either that, or they&#39;re shaking their heads thinking, &#34;What a bunch of GEEKS!&#34; LMAO! <BR> <BR>Thank the cyber gods Dean understands. ;o&#41;
Sheri Gordon (Sheri)
05-15-2001, 12:39 AM
Don&#39;t military families move a lot? Get stationed around a lot? Mebbe that&#39;s why he was in one place then another, OR, they were vacationing? It &#42;was&#42; a holiday, after all, wasn&#39;t it? hehehe <BR> <BR>And yep....being a writer meself, I can tell you this much....&#34;WHERE in the heck do they get all this from? I just stuck that in there cuz it sounded good.&#34; ;-&#41;
Emma (Emma)
05-15-2001, 04:50 AM
I see Pat and Kefla were off and running again last night! Day-um! I missed the fun but woke up to a great discussion this morning! <BR> <BR>Also, I seem to be missing a lot of details. I think I&#39;d better concentrate on the &#34;story line&#34; when I&#39;m watching &#34;The Visitor&#34; and not be so distracted by the actor who&#39;s playing Adam! :oP <BR> <BR>Emma
Agent Pat (Agentpat)
05-15-2001, 06:23 AM
You&#39;re absolutely right Sher, military families do move around a great deal. I suppose we&#39;ll have to chalk this one up to information left un-detailed. :o&#41; <BR> <BR>Emma, distractions are the spice of life babe. ;o&#41;
Chris Ceraolo (Chris)
05-15-2001, 08:49 AM
About every two years Military families tend to move. <BR> <BR>About Adam&#39;s flight, it took off from Eglin Air Force base &#34;Home of the Blue Angels&#34;-and disappeared over Melbourne Florida-part of the Triangle, no less- <BR> <BR>The Flight existed. That&#39;s what kept me interested in the show to begin with. <BR> <BR>Chris <BR>The FOX plant
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